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posted by [personal profile] boymeat at 09:38am on 06/05/2009
Dear Phil,

Please stop getting involved in pointless arguments about leather protocols and history on FetLife with people who refuse to remove their heads from the holes they are in. You have learned this lesson before, and yet you insist on continuing. May I suggest you bang your head against a brick wall instead? The bricks will accept your argument much quicker, you will feel a much greater sense of accomplishment and satisfaction, and the resulting major trauma will allow you to forget all about FetLife.

Love, your caring and loving self,
Mood:: 'frustrated' frustrated
There are 34 comments on this entry. (Reply.)
posted by [identity profile] at 01:52pm on 06/05/2009
What is it that they say about repeating the same actions and expecting different results?

posted by [identity profile] at 02:30pm on 06/05/2009
And yet I persist. Oy.
posted by [identity profile] at 02:00pm on 06/05/2009

In my day, we only banged our heads against cinder brick walls. Those who bang their heads against other types of walls today are disrespecting or completely unknowing of the old guard traditions, and aren't really hardcore.

posted by [identity profile] at 02:03pm on 06/05/2009
Oh Sir, thank you for correcting this ignorant pup! I shall put band-aids on my head, beg humble apologies to the ordinary bricks, and immediately find the nearest cinder block wall and bash myself double!

Thor... you are the greatest.
posted by [identity profile] at 02:31pm on 06/05/2009
According to everyone in this group I am suffering in, you did it totally wrong... in fact, you came to your leather life completely differently than you remember!
posted by [identity profile] at 02:13pm on 06/05/2009
Yeah, I've been watching that one...I decided you were doing great and didn't need my help, LOL, and plus there are certain people in that convo I do my best to not have even "pleasant" conversations with.
posted by [identity profile] at 02:29pm on 06/05/2009
I know better. I know I know better. Why do I continue? WHY?!
posted by [identity profile] at 02:36pm on 06/05/2009
LOL. Yeah, me too :) Just not that particular thread :P
posted by [identity profile] at 02:54pm on 06/05/2009
Masochism. I keep tellin' ya.
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posted by [personal profile] blk at 02:19pm on 06/05/2009
Dang, now I wanna go see the stupidity.
posted by [identity profile] at 02:30pm on 06/05/2009
Have Tylenol at the ready.
posted by [identity profile] at 03:51pm on 06/05/2009
...if only for the white-on-black of the site. And the endless scrolling because the columns are two inches wide.
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posted by [personal profile] blk at 01:05am on 07/05/2009
That was some very poor quality entertainment. Boo
posted by [identity profile] at 02:20pm on 06/05/2009
But the earnesty is so cute!
posted by [identity profile] at 02:30pm on 06/05/2009
I'm gonna get you for that.
posted by [identity profile] at 02:21pm on 06/05/2009
i've been keeping my mouth shut on that thread.
posted by [identity profile] at 02:30pm on 06/05/2009
Very smart... unlike me.
posted by [identity profile] at 02:31pm on 06/05/2009
But But... someone on the internet is wrong!
posted by [identity profile] at 02:32pm on 06/05/2009
Yeah, someone on Twitter already tagged me with that bit of xkcd brilliance. Guilty as charged.
posted by [identity profile] at 02:55pm on 06/05/2009
I have avoided that one like the plague! (although you didn't just get started that thread)
posted by [identity profile] at 03:01pm on 06/05/2009
Yeah, I did. Because I'm sick and fucking tired of people eschewing their bullshit as fact. That anyone has to be viewed and judged by these people and their false ideals and beliefs.

Am I an idiot? Yeah, maybe. But I'm just tired of it.
posted by [identity profile] at 03:07pm on 06/05/2009
This is why I cannot even open the fucking site without shooting myself in the head

The shooting myself in the head part is to prevent pointless arguments
posted by [identity profile] at 04:13pm on 06/05/2009
Just say no Phil.

It's easier - trust me...
posted by [identity profile] at 04:52pm on 06/05/2009
Oh hell, does that mean I shouldn't have started my BDSM journey as the dirty little secret femme fucktoy of a pair of gay leathermen?

I always get these things wrong. *giggles*
posted by [identity profile] at 05:23pm on 06/05/2009
Are you sure you're not a masochist? ;)

*dives for cover*
posted by [identity profile] at 06:54pm on 06/05/2009
*Snerks* Wish I knew what thread this is. At least you've learned your lesson this time, right?
posted by [identity profile] at 07:02pm on 06/05/2009
You do it because that blinding rush of anger and frustration compels you to AND it makes us all chuckle. Besides, maybe...just maybe...someone has learned. (ha! ha! ha! well, it *could* happen.)

*off to view the thread*
posted by [identity profile] at 09:37pm on 06/05/2009
I don't know, bashing ones head against the wall knowing that you are really pissing the fools off more than they are getting you is pretty satisfying to me.
posted by [identity profile] at 03:22am on 07/05/2009

Ah, I see you've now had the distinct pleasure of encountering the good Mr. Brawner and his Revealed TRUTH! TRUTH that you, being the pissant poser straight boy will never have Revealed to you because you, being but the pissant poser straight boy, are just... well... you're just a pissant poser straight boy!

So there!

Now go run along and stop bothering your betters what with all your pissant poser straight boy blathering!


Yeah, I've "encountered" the good Mr. Brawner a couple of times as well. Our "encounters" ended not well as well. Pity, that.

As you've noticed he does view his experience as being absolute and universal to all gay leathermen. And any gay leatherman who doesn't have that exact same experience is not, therefore, a "real" gay leatherman.

Of course, those who aren't even gay like Wayne need not even bother for us folk will _NEVER_ share that same Enlightenment.


I hope you got all that out of your system there me boyo. At least for a little while. I think you gave a whole lot better than you got but thems that be doin' the givin' on the other side are wedded to their sufferings so insufferably that you'll never be to changin' their ways.

posted by [identity profile] at 01:43pm on 07/05/2009
It was kind of ironic that one of the posts on that thread accused me of "not being able to see the forest from the trees." I chuckled at that one.
posted by [identity profile] at 05:47am on 07/05/2009
So I know very little about these things, and I'd like to keep it that way. Can't we just define the way that we each want to do things, find like-minded folks to have the really deep connections with, and then just connect with the other people as friends or acquaintances?

Or am I, by definition, wrong because I started using the internet when I was 11 or 12?
posted by [identity profile] at 01:41pm on 07/05/2009
Of course we can.

The debate I was having was a more historical one... trying to keep the record straight about what happened in the past vs. the stories some people tell and convince themselves about.

Leather history is a hobby of mine... and pointing out flagrant discrepancies has become one of my projects, despite the frustration it often brings me as a result.
posted by [identity profile] at 05:25pm on 07/05/2009
Ah, I should stop assuming what the debate was. But since I know I know very little...

It's a pity that logic doesn't work on emotive issues.
posted by [identity profile] at 08:34am on 07/05/2009
You're name is Phil.. Really.. i guess i can see that but.. nvm.. Don't let the stupid get You down..


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